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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffDiana Hamilton Date: Dec 10, 2005 10:38pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Curation of uploader honor system

"Archive Curators, volunteer fans who have proven to be in line with the spirit of this archive, will attempt to screen contributions for OK'ed material only."

So there is a content police......I wonder what, if any, standards they use....


We've discussed this in the past, over the last 3 years now.

In the case where an offlimits item for a band has come in unintentionally, we've been very fortunate to have the additional eyes and ears of caring patrons who will report potential problems. We follow up on them. I don't think we've seen a *single* case of someone intentionally "sneaking" something in. Patrons have consistently understood the importance of respecting the guidelines for the collection.

...You remember the honor system at UVA? It works sort of like that is supposed to.

In the case of GD material, we are especially fortunate to have a large "subcommunity" of Deadheads who are quite focused and meticulous in tracking source and date info wherever possible. These are the type of careful people who put together a site like http://deadlists.com or who help correct and comment on the source information at http://db.etree.org/shncirc/gd . Their integrity, attention to detail- and their detective skills- are true assets to our fandom. :)

-Diana, a volunteer LMA curator

PS- As for ripping your undocumented AUD CDs, meticulous Deadheads, and people of the LMA/etree.org community in general, will even have a much bigger problem with that well apart from any SBD vs AUD considerations. See http://wiki.etree.org/index.php?page=SeedingGuidelines
If you can't answer the question, "Do you have the best possible source?" with some certainty, particularly given the level of documentation we have for most Dead material by now, you should not prepare your flac seed in the first place. Please enjoy the copy you have, and let others with documented material contribute in your stead.

This post was modified by Diana Hamilton on 2005-12-11 06:38:54

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Poster: JayColodesch Date: Dec 21, 2005 2:21am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Curation of uploader honor system

Diane and all the other admins at the archive, First I want to say that although I put one venting post about the GD turmoil I am ready to contribute some helpful info (maybe?). I want to thank all of you for the great job you have done both before November 22 and after. I don't want to muddy the water any more that it is already but there is an issue with taping source which should be addressed. It has been almost 20 years since I actively taped but I do remember that AFTER the band officially set up the "tapers section" at venues there were certain venues where a physical tapers section wasn't possible in the performance hall. Since the "tapers section" policy was approved the solution Healy and others came up with was to supply a soundboard fed patch to an area of the venue outside the performance hall where tapers there that night could patch in their equiptment. This was done with full knowledge and intent on the Bands part to supply a "tapers section" where none could be provided physically. This would have been done in small venues like Berkely Comminity Theatre. It seems to me if the Band now has an understandable right to soundboard derived tapes done by band staff and "leaked" to the taping community, that these "soundboard" tapes done from the patch serving as a "tapers section" that night should be allowed to be downloaded. The deadhead taper comminity out there as well as the Band's staff could identify those shows for the archives benefit. We could then have three catagories of tape sources: soundboards not supplied by the Band which would only stream, Auds done by tapers on their own equiptment at the venue which would be downloadable, and these few soundboards supplied by the Band as an alternative to a tapers section which would also be downloadable. Sorry to confuse the mix but truth is truth. Thanks, Jay

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffDiana Hamilton Date: Dec 2, 2005 1:48am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Curation of uploader honor system

Further, I gather from Matt the GDIAP Team intends to maintain its close curation over the GD collection here for the time being. GD uploads will therefore be managed directly by focused and meticulous Deadheads, rendering some of the worries in this thread moot.

This post was modified by Diana Hamilton on 2005-12-02 09:48:04